Knives - Overpowered or are people just not aware enough?

For me, it feels more like the melee range is way to long. It feels like everything within about 10ft in a 90 degree radius just dies. A lot of the time however, if the detectives knew how to use the DNA scanner, it would really negate the power of it. I've become a lean mean terrorist killing machine from the DNA they leave everywhere.

 

Finding the DNA doesn't help much when the guy stabs you from 4 metres because the lag compensation puts you closer on his screen than where you thought you were.

I could suggest making the pull-out time longer, so the guy (Xandrah, Joey) isn't able to instantly pull it out in a gun fight and get a simple instant kill on some poor guy's arm because they can't take me on in a head to head battle with a gun. :x

 

Or like a throw leavage?

 

a cooldown timer between using one knife and buying the next one would solve most problems

 

Or maybe just make the limit a little bit more than 1, but not infinite.

 

In it's current form; in which you can buy 6 or more knives in one round if you do it right - it's overpowered. I believe the simplest solution will be to limit it to a maximum of 3 knives, maybe 2. When you start adding in changes like 'won't work on X person' and they aren't documented in i.e. the knife description then you start confusing players, which is naturally something to be avoided.

Also on comments about the range, let's bear in mind that on a standard TTT server without altered mechanics and 100 ping it's basically impossible to kill someone with the knife, making it pretty unusable.

 

I'll ask for my money back from platinum if you remove infinite knives! It's the whole reason I bought it

 

Knives should glow red. People would become more aware.

 

Pfft
You've had it long before then

The issue sort of came to light once Platinum had unlimited amounts of knives. Adding cooldowns or a equip timer sort of negates what the knife is about - a quick silent kill.
I don't really want to have to add an amount system because then I have to rewrite the backend which controls it.

What about reducing the damage on the knife and instead having it slow people down? This isn't what I'm going to do, just tossing an idea into the mix.

 

Okay, and what about the times when I'm literally hugging a guy and it does nothing and they fire one shot and I die instantly? And what about the people (Teddi, Ash, Elk, Cwivey) who buy 7 C4, which just like the knife is an instant kill, but can (theoretically) kill the entire server in one blast. There are plenty of things that can kill people in one shot: C4, a single shotgun shell to the head, deagle shot to the head, rifle shot to the head, pretty much any gun that isn't a pistol or glock now can kill someone in one shot to the head. Sure, a head shot is harder than stabbing someone with a knife, but all it takes is someone standing still for half a second and bang they're dead.

The real problem with the knife is something that can't actually be fixed, and it's one of the problems with the rifle too, they're both really inconsistent. Sometimes it takes 3-4 stabs at point blank range to kill someone, and sometimes it takes 1 stab at 3-4 feet away. And before Teddi made it so the pistol didn't one shot people with a head shot, it was more dangerous than the knife.

 

The c4 is not always an instant kill weapon, it has damage fall-off, only the people closest to the blast get the full damage and there's several ways of defending against it, you can hear the beeping, you can defuse it, and you can ruddy well run away from it.

 

Today we had some pretty good examples of where the Knife isn't overpowered. For now I think the best course of action is to leave it as it is temporarily.

However it was also suggested that a cooldown on buying knives should be around 1:30 - 2:00 long, so you can repeatedly buy them, but not within such short timeframes.

 

I also didn't pay for it but shush

2 Minutes is quite a long time :L considering most games are over within 7 minutes

 

Also an example of how it is though, in which I bought 9 in a row and simultaneously killed 9 people with them in a very short amount of time (woo lighthouse).

Then picked up 14 credits off a detective, that was kind of weird.

 

I always bought a knife and got mad killz with it, this was when you were only allowed 1. It was perfectly balanced that way. WAY TO MAKE THE GAME PAY2WIN TEDDI YOU GREEDY WHORE

 

If the server was full, he probably looted most of the unspent credits from other traitors.